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Grumpier Old MenGrumpier Old Men (1995)

IMDB rating: 6.20

Plot: Things don’t seem to change much in Wabasha County: Max and John are still fighting after 35 years, Grandpa still drinks, smokes, and chases women , and nobody’s been able to catch the fabled “Catfish Hunter”, a gigantic catfish that actually smiles at fishermen who try to snare it. Six months ago John married the new girl in town (Ariel), and people begin to suspect that Max might be missing something similar in his life. The only joy Max claims is left in his life is fishing, but that might change with the new owner of the bait shop.

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Directors: Deutch Howard

Actors: Matthau Walter,Lemmon Jack,Burgess Meredith,Pollak Kevin,Andelin James,Klemp Marcus,Wright Max,Evenson Wayne A.,Comedy,Romance,

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I dont know what to do anymore! UGH?
ok heres the story.

my dad lost his job in april 2005, he was a graphic artist and was making great pay. He was out of work off and on over the years, the jobs ranging from landscaper,lasermaking,brickmaking,packingproducts etc. We barely managed and still now to afford to live in our house. My mom on the otherhand was smart enough to go back to college and get her masters in special education. My dad refuses to go back to college because he claims hes too OLD. yet my mom is only 2 years younger. My mom writes his resumes and finds him jobs in the paper and online. Because my dad is such a downer and is too freaking lazy to anything now. Dont tell me I am mean here people because he has medications for depression and anger. and he even has a counselour, BUT he sometimes REFUSES to go to the counselour and take his meds simply because hes so frigging childish MY MOM HAS TO WIPE HIS LAZY BUTT ALL THE TIME. even my mom is getting sick of it. she even said she wanted and now wants to get a divorce. my dad is a misrable grumpy man now. all he does is eat watch cartoons and feel sorry forhimself. he rages off the handle and then comes back saying hes sorry. i cant stand this any longer he is driving me insane!!! before i walked out the door he just started to rave at me, i slammed the door and called him insane. when i came home today i didnt even bother saying hi. im just so fed up. my mom recalls that when i was even a toddler i said "Mommy, daddy can be such a cruel man sometimes." And that was when life was good, he still had a rare anger fit. hes turning into his dad, a grumpy negetive person no one wants to be around. my mom says she doesnt even love him anymore. and the only reaason why she hasnt got a divorce is because she doesnt want to loose the house we live in and move into a apartment.

i feel like i should just slam my face on my desk now.

my life rocks. right?
save me.
p.s im 16

if i didnt mention that
i was in 5th grade when he lost his job. and dont even say i shouldnt be worrying about this when my whole extended family talks about it. >:(


It looks like you have bought into all the crap your mother has piled on him and have joined her in becoming another woman who does not love or respect him.

I might understand your mother being ungrateful for his supporting the family while she was smart enough to go to school while he is now ill and out of work but you on the other hand are his daughter.

I can only say that your attitude disgusts me.

You were in the fifth grade when he lost his job but the 12 years before he raised you.
How totally sickening that you have no respect.

It must really suck to be you.
You so want your mother to divorce him so you can be free of him but do not because, why, because both you and your mom do not have to move.

There are special names for women who treat their family like this.
Your mother vowed for richer for poorer and in sickness and in health.
You are his daughter and that comes naturally.

if I had to live with women like you I would be depressed as well.

What a freaking shame that he lost work and you both turn on him because it made him depressed.

I’m sure that none of this will really sink in but I thought someone had to tell you that you are
an ungrateful little pain in the butt.

You deserve to reap the same attitude from your children someday.
I fear you will not know why it has come back to you either.

GUY bein' a GUY | Nov 12, 2009


only 2 more years till you move out!
Michelle | Nov 12, 2009


So what is your question?

This is your lifetime to muddle through…do so complaining all the way or start to seek out other positive ways to spend your time.
say it all… | Nov 12, 2009


i know how you feel my family sounds the exact same way. the only thing different is that I am the wife and not the child. Do you attend church? if you don’t maybe you should look into it. (you can ignore this info if you find it offending) but i hope that you take it to heart. The best thing for you to do right now is to think about your schooling and yourself. be supportive of your mom. let her know that you will support her no matter what she decides to do. an apartment would be so bad right?!?!? My children are 9 and 11 and it kills me to see what we (husband and i ) are putting them thru. i plan on fixing the problem the first of the new year.
tell your mom you love and that is all that can be expected you are a child and need to be a child as long as you can. i will say a prayer for you and your family.. Good luck and God bless
jenken | Nov 12, 2009


Well I would b depressed as well if I have a daughter that instead of encourage me, calls me a lazy ass and a mean man, and a wife that only wants to be with me cuz’ she doesn’t want to live in an apartment. How ridiculous is that !

This seems to be all about money issues, Where is the family support ??? Where are the family values ??? yeah let’s kick the dad in his butt because the lazy man doesn’t have money enough to keep us living in a fancy house !!! how depressing !!!

Do you work ??? Are you helping with the family bills ??? Maybe you can babysit or something huh ??? Yeah you should slam your face on you desk and back into reality !
?Khadijah? | Nov 12, 2009


I know that it’s hard to handle. :-( He was angry before he lost his job. You have to understand something about a man–normally, his entire identity is wrapped up in his career. So when he loses his job, he feels as though his entire identity is gone. It’s usually very difficult in this situation for a man to be able to get up off his ass and find another job because he has such a huge bout of depression. True, he has therapists and meds to help him, but at the same time, he might not feel like that will help. He probably feels as though there is no hope whatsoever.

That still doesn’t excuse the way that he’s treating you guys, but you can either make it flow more easily or you can make it harder on yourself. It’s not easy to sit there and ignore someone when they’re chewing you out, but when you left the house, you could have left in silence instead of saying that he was insane. That’s only going to make the situation worse. I’m all for you hiding out in your room at times when it gets too difficult.

Hang in there!!!
Just Some Girl | Nov 12, 2009


OK, first off this is between your mom and dad and you should stay out of it.

Second off, you dad is depressed. It’s easy for you to judge from where you sit, but wait until life slaps you around for a few more decades and then you’ll maybe understand how it can happen.

also, in today’s economy there just aren’t very many jobs to be had.

Things you can do that will help are;

Show your dad some respect and a smile. It will boost his sense of self worth and increase his chances of getting moving.

Cheerfully get him to do something active with you. Try to get him to take you places. hiking, the zoo, museums, whatever. Anything to get him up moving and re-engaged with the world. You can get him moving in this direction by asking him about what interested him when he was your age. If he says he used to like to hike in some area then tell him that sounds cool and could he take you there this weekend. Stuff like that.

So if you really want to help him show him some love and respect and get him interested in life and the world again.
The Bobster | Nov 12, 2009


Ok honey…. Leave that in the past… soon in a few short years you’ll move away from all this and start your own life…. Good Luck.
BT | Nov 12, 2009


You shouldn’t worry about it. I know you don’t want to hear that but no one can help your dad but your dad. And it seems like he is getting the help (being on meds, seeing a counselor) So you just need to be patient (and so does he) in hopes they can help him.

You also have to look at it from your dads point of view. He went from the bread winner having a steady job being able to take care of his family to the one who needs taken care of. Most men who get into that situation usually have some sort of depression or anger issues after wards. He just needs to stop feeling sorry for himself and find himself something he will love doing. Or at least be happy doing.

But again, you don’t need to stress over it. Let your mom and dad work their problems out. You are about to be starting your own life. And just take this situation as a lesson learned. Your dad is obviously going through somethings and needs yours and your moms love and support. (even though I know you don’t feel he deserves it) But hopefully life will pick up for him soon and he will be back to his old self again. Good luck
JeNnn | Nov 12, 2009


Marry a man with money, its the only way to go!
MissingInAction | Nov 12, 2009

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